Comments on: Tongue Tie And Newborns http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/ Breastfeeding Support and Guidance from moms who have been there Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:26:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Mommy News http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-4343 Mommy News Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:33:00 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-4343 Hi Amanda, I'm so sorry that you are still having nursing difficulties even after your baby has had his tongue clipped. Have you tried pumping and giving him the milk in a <a href="http://www.mothersboutique.com/babycup.html" rel="nofollow">cup</a> instead of a bottle? Many babies don't like bottles, but will take milk from a cup. I would also recommend having your LC come by again and see if there is something else that will help him to nurse - perhaps his suck reflex isn't being properly stimulated. I will also post info about your question and see if I can get other mamas with experience with tongue-tie to come give some advice as well. -- Judy Hi Amanda, I’m so sorry that you are still having nursing difficulties even after your baby has had his tongue clipped. Have you tried pumping and giving him the milk in a cup instead of a bottle? Many babies don’t like bottles, but will take milk from a cup. I would also recommend having your LC come by again and see if there is something else that will help him to nurse – perhaps his suck reflex isn’t being properly stimulated. I will also post info about your question and see if I can get other mamas with experience with tongue-tie to come give some advice as well. — Judy

]]> By: amanda http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-4342 amanda Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:13:37 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-4342 Hi there~ after reading about others experiences with tongue tied babies, I'd like to post my own and see if anyone can please help me. My son is almost 4 months old and we just had his tongue tie clipped last week after a L.C. determined that was causing his refusal to bf. (I've been soley bf him, but he only will latch on while sleepy or at night). I've tried a bottle but he refuses it, too. Also tried cutting different foods out of my diet..different nursing positions... basically anything I could think of. I need help! I thought he would love nursing after the tt was fixed, but he still refuses to latch during the day. This results is pain for mama (started pumping/storing) and a miserable baby boy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Hi there~ after reading about others experiences with tongue tied babies, I’d like to post my own and see if anyone can please help me. My son is almost 4 months old and we just had his tongue tie clipped last week after a L.C. determined that was causing his refusal to bf. (I’ve been soley bf him, but he only will latch on while sleepy or at night).

I’ve tried a bottle but he refuses it, too. Also tried cutting different foods out of my diet..different nursing positions… basically anything I could think of. I need help!

I thought he would love nursing after the tt was fixed, but he still refuses to latch during the day. This results is pain for mama (started pumping/storing) and a miserable baby boy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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]]> By: Crystal http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3728 Crystal Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:24:56 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3728 Thank you so much for sharing your story! I truly think tongue tie is far more common than people think. I had my doctor actually tell me he doesn't really "believe" in it. REALLY???? I guess in a bottle society it isn't usually an issue, but if you want to breast feed, it sure is!! I think the breastfeeding community needs to continue putting stories like this out there, demand this issue be seen as important to the health of a baby. Make it routine to check if there is any pain at all!!! I have shared my story on other posts about tongue-tie on this site, but I will do so again. My son was also tongue-tied but was not diagnosed until I discovered it through research when he was 14 months old! (btw we had his tongue snipped at 25 months old due to speech delays!) My milk was delayed, we used a nipple shield for 5 MONTHS!, he became jaundiced, he battled nursing strikes, we had so many problems. Thank god for good support and that my milk did come in. I was thankfully able to breastfeed my son until he was 2.5! I also work and pumped until he was 14 months old. I just wanted to share this because tongue tie can be so difficult to work through and I want moms to know that sometimes it can be done, and to become your own advocate to give you and your baby the best chance possible! Thank you so much for sharing this story!! .-= Crystal´s last blog ..<a href="http://cfoutz.blogspot.com/2009/08/mothers-ability-to-heal.html" rel="nofollow">A mother's ability to heal</a> =-. Thank you so much for sharing your story! I truly think tongue tie is far more common than people think. I had my doctor actually tell me he doesn’t really “believe” in it. REALLY???? I guess in a bottle society it isn’t usually an issue, but if you want to breast feed, it sure is!! I think the breastfeeding community needs to continue putting stories like this out there, demand this issue be seen as important to the health of a baby. Make it routine to check if there is any pain at all!!!

I have shared my story on other posts about tongue-tie on this site, but I will do so again.

My son was also tongue-tied but was not diagnosed until I discovered it through research when he was 14 months old! (btw we had his tongue snipped at 25 months old due to speech delays!)

My milk was delayed, we used a nipple shield for 5 MONTHS!, he became jaundiced, he battled nursing strikes, we had so many problems. Thank god for good support and that my milk did come in. I was thankfully able to breastfeed my son until he was 2.5! I also work and pumped until he was 14 months old. I just wanted to share this because tongue tie can be so difficult to work through and I want moms to know that sometimes it can be done, and to become your own advocate to give you and your baby the best chance possible!

Thank you so much for sharing this story!!
.-= Crystal´s last blog ..A mother’s ability to heal =-.

]]> By: Lisa http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3708 Lisa Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:10:36 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3708 My middle son was tongue-tied. I had a UC, so didn't deal with anyone else. I just knew we were having major issues nursing, so much that I was using a nipple shield. I looked up pictures & thought he might be tongue-tied. I looked it up more, trying to find someone who would know where to take him to get it clipped. Emailed a dr a few hours away who gave me some names locally, then emailed me back to say she'd be visiting her daughter in my city, she could check my baby. She's actually a GP who attends births. She clips tongue ties for every baby she delivers who has one because she knows it can make a huge difference for nursing. She took a look & said he had a really bad tie, less than 10% movement. She showed her daughter (dental assistant), then swaddled my son. He freaked & promptly got his arms out, so she redid it & laid him on the table. He was screaming about being swaddled, she was poking around his mouth, then handed him back to nurse. It was so fast & easy I didn't even realize she was done already. He had a tiny bit of bleeding, so I nursed him until it stopped. It took awhile to wean off the shield since he was already over 6 weeks when we had it done, but eventually we did & there weren't any other problems nursing. Plus, he really liked being able to move his tongue. My middle son was tongue-tied. I had a UC, so didn’t deal with anyone else. I just knew we were having major issues nursing, so much that I was using a nipple shield. I looked up pictures & thought he might be tongue-tied. I looked it up more, trying to find someone who would know where to take him to get it clipped.

Emailed a dr a few hours away who gave me some names locally, then emailed me back to say she’d be visiting her daughter in my city, she could check my baby. She’s actually a GP who attends births. She clips tongue ties for every baby she delivers who has one because she knows it can make a huge difference for nursing.

She took a look & said he had a really bad tie, less than 10% movement. She showed her daughter (dental assistant), then swaddled my son. He freaked & promptly got his arms out, so she redid it & laid him on the table.

He was screaming about being swaddled, she was poking around his mouth, then handed him back to nurse. It was so fast & easy I didn’t even realize she was done already. He had a tiny bit of bleeding, so I nursed him until it stopped.

It took awhile to wean off the shield since he was already over 6 weeks when we had it done, but eventually we did & there weren’t any other problems nursing. Plus, he really liked being able to move his tongue.

]]> By: Amanda @ The Mom Crowd http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3707 Amanda @ The Mom Crowd Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:52:18 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3707 I don't know why, but I totally teared up while reading your post. So many women would have given up so easily, but you didn't. Way to go!! Thanks for sharing your story. .-= Amanda @ The Mom Crowd´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.themomcrowd.com/abiding-monday-unchanging" rel="nofollow">Abiding Monday: Unchanging</a> =-. I don’t know why, but I totally teared up while reading your post. So many women would have given up so easily, but you didn’t. Way to go!! Thanks for sharing your story.
.-= Amanda @ The Mom Crowd´s last blog ..Abiding Monday: Unchanging =-.

]]> By: simone http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3676 simone Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:10:43 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3676 Our son was tongue tied as well. We went through the same struggles breastfeeding. Painful nipples, and my milk never fully came in because I didn't know to pump to supplement his feedings. The lac consultant didn't really see anything wrong with it, but our doula said it might be tongue tie, so we made our appt when he was 4 weeks and at 6 weeks had his tongue clipped. It is heart-wrenching, but so worth it for the increased feeding! .-= simone´s last blog ..<a href="http://slimodds.blogspot.com/2009/11/ko.html" rel="nofollow">K.O.</a> =-. Our son was tongue tied as well. We went through the same struggles breastfeeding. Painful nipples, and my milk never fully came in because I didn’t know to pump to supplement his feedings. The lac consultant didn’t really see anything wrong with it, but our doula said it might be tongue tie, so we made our appt when he was 4 weeks and at 6 weeks had his tongue clipped. It is heart-wrenching, but so worth it for the increased feeding!
.-= simone´s last blog ..K.O. =-.

]]> By: Mommy News http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3603 Mommy News Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:16:21 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3603 Hi Courtney, Thank you so much for stopping by and sharing your story. I am so impressed and amazed that you were able to make it through all of that. I wish there was a way to educated Drs about tongue tie so that more mothers don't have to go through what you and Dusk went through. And when your ENT heard tongue-tie and breastfeeding, he should have squeezed you in the next day and not made you wait 6 weeks! How horrible! Do you know how many mothers would have given up having to wait that long! WOW - thank you so much for sharing your story -- Judy Hi Courtney, Thank you so much for stopping by and sharing your story. I am so impressed and amazed that you were able to make it through all of that. I wish there was a way to educated Drs about tongue tie so that more mothers don’t have to go through what you and Dusk went through. And when your ENT heard tongue-tie and breastfeeding, he should have squeezed you in the next day and not made you wait 6 weeks! How horrible! Do you know how many mothers would have given up having to wait that long! WOW – thank you so much for sharing your story — Judy

]]> By: Courtney http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3592 Courtney Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:26:29 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3592 I love this story and I want to add ours. My son was born just the way I imagined with my midwife in the hospital with no pain meds all natural and no tearing. His cord was wrapped 3 times, but his apgar scores were higher then most babies (what the nurse said) whose cords aren't wrapped so no concerns. I immediately put him to breast after the midwife quickly unwrapped the cord and let it sit and pulse while he tried to latch. It hurt, but I had been told it often did at first and then he let go and started crying. They figured it was some trauma from the cord and he would be fine in a little bit. I just kept trying to latch him on all night and he would nurse for a few minutes and then quit and cry for a little. I was still in pain, but that was "normal" I kept being told. The LC came in the next morning and was extremely rude and when she couldn't get him to latch well she stormed out and said she had others who needed her and she would be back. She never came back and I was actually glad. The night nurse showed me how to side lie with him and that seemed to help a little, but not much. He would nurse longer that way, but the pain was still there. Then on our last day at the hospital it was a different ped on call (our doc doesn't have rights at the hospital I delivered in). This ped came in as they were getting ready to discharge us and said he was tongue tied and that was why he wouldn't latch. Okay so what do we do. He told us about getting his tongue clipped and compared it to circumcision pain and DH had a bit of an issue with that. We did not circumcise our child per DH's insistince (DH is though) and he didn't like a procedure that was compared to that. Well the doc said he didn't do the clipping, but gave us the name of an ENT in town who did and told us to call him when we got home and to keep trying to nurse since he hadn't lost as much weight as normal newborns he must be getting something from me. Well after doing some research online after getting home DH agreed to have it done, but the ENT couldn't get us in for 6 weeks!!! For 6 weeks I was in complete and total pain while nursing and could only nurse while side lying with my son. I would cry the whole time and DH would rub my back to try to calm me. The clipping was simple. The doc had me hold in all swaddled (he was asleep when we started) and the nurse held his head. They told me to be ready to nurse as soon as they were done so I was. The put a little metal thing in to hold his tongue up so he could look at it and then clipped real quick. Little guy cried as soon as he put the metal thing in to evaluate his tongue and immediately quit as soon as I put him to breast and was right back asleep. The doc then talked with us and told us my son was one of the worst he had seen and he couldn't believe I had actually been nursing him at all. I guess both son and I were determined to nurse!! It took me 2 more weeks with an LC to teach him how to latch properly and another 3-4 weeks to heal and not be in pain while nursing, but when he quit at 18 months because I was pregnant I was soooo glad I stuck through the pain. My second the first thing I asked the ped and checked myself was if she was tongue tied, but she was not at all. I later found out that my husband and 2 of his 3 siblings had been tongue tied at birth too and it can be hereditary so I will make sure when I become a grandma I am looking in those babes mouths!! I love this story and I want to add ours. My son was born just the way I imagined with my midwife in the hospital with no pain meds all natural and no tearing. His cord was wrapped 3 times, but his apgar scores were higher then most babies (what the nurse said) whose cords aren’t wrapped so no concerns. I immediately put him to breast after the midwife quickly unwrapped the cord and let it sit and pulse while he tried to latch. It hurt, but I had been told it often did at first and then he let go and started crying. They figured it was some trauma from the cord and he would be fine in a little bit. I just kept trying to latch him on all night and he would nurse for a few minutes and then quit and cry for a little. I was still in pain, but that was “normal” I kept being told. The LC came in the next morning and was extremely rude and when she couldn’t get him to latch well she stormed out and said she had others who needed her and she would be back. She never came back and I was actually glad. The night nurse showed me how to side lie with him and that seemed to help a little, but not much. He would nurse longer that way, but the pain was still there. Then on our last day at the hospital it was a different ped on call (our doc doesn’t have rights at the hospital I delivered in). This ped came in as they were getting ready to discharge us and said he was tongue tied and that was why he wouldn’t latch. Okay so what do we do. He told us about getting his tongue clipped and compared it to circumcision pain and DH had a bit of an issue with that. We did not circumcise our child per DH’s insistince (DH is though) and he didn’t like a procedure that was compared to that. Well the doc said he didn’t do the clipping, but gave us the name of an ENT in town who did and told us to call him when we got home and to keep trying to nurse since he hadn’t lost as much weight as normal newborns he must be getting something from me. Well after doing some research online after getting home DH agreed to have it done, but the ENT couldn’t get us in for 6 weeks!!! For 6 weeks I was in complete and total pain while nursing and could only nurse while side lying with my son. I would cry the whole time and DH would rub my back to try to calm me. The clipping was simple. The doc had me hold in all swaddled (he was asleep when we started) and the nurse held his head. They told me to be ready to nurse as soon as they were done so I was. The put a little metal thing in to hold his tongue up so he could look at it and then clipped real quick. Little guy cried as soon as he put the metal thing in to evaluate his tongue and immediately quit as soon as I put him to breast and was right back asleep. The doc then talked with us and told us my son was one of the worst he had seen and he couldn’t believe I had actually been nursing him at all. I guess both son and I were determined to nurse!! It took me 2 more weeks with an LC to teach him how to latch properly and another 3-4 weeks to heal and not be in pain while nursing, but when he quit at 18 months because I was pregnant I was soooo glad I stuck through the pain. My second the first thing I asked the ped and checked myself was if she was tongue tied, but she was not at all. I later found out that my husband and 2 of his 3 siblings had been tongue tied at birth too and it can be hereditary so I will make sure when I become a grandma I am looking in those babes mouths!!

]]> By: Dou-la-la http://mommynewsblog.com/tongue-tie-and-newborns/comment-page-1/#comment-3580 Dou-la-la Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:32:44 +0000 http://mommynewsblog.com/?p=4253#comment-3580 Great story, and great job there mama! I'm really surprised the it was the pediatrician that caught it and not the LC - it seems to often be just the opposite, judging by a lot of stories I've heard. Yes, tongue tie was a huge part of our story. Lily had a posterior tie that went undiagnosed for 5 weeks. There are several grades of tongue tie, and posterior can be the hardest to identify. It was missed by my midwives, the first LC, our pediatrician, and even a chiropractor/craniosacral therapist who specialized in infant and child care. It was finally identified by our 2nd truly wonderful LC, who continued to work with us for 4 more tireless months, and it was officially diagnosed and then clipped by the esteemed Elizabeth Coryllos, a pediatric surgeon who has published quite a bit on tongue tie and breastfeeding. That's about as far as I can go in summing it up; the entire rather insane saga is here: http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/search/label/lact-aid Thanks for bringing attention to this! I really hope information about this becomes much more commonly available. I think it may underlie the premature severing of a lot of breastfeeding relationships, much to the mystified frustration of the mothers. Great story, and great job there mama! I’m really surprised the it was the pediatrician that caught it and not the LC – it seems to often be just the opposite, judging by a lot of stories I’ve heard.

Yes, tongue tie was a huge part of our story. Lily had a posterior tie that went undiagnosed for 5 weeks. There are several grades of tongue tie, and posterior can be the hardest to identify. It was missed by my midwives, the first LC, our pediatrician, and even a chiropractor/craniosacral therapist who specialized in infant and child care. It was finally identified by our 2nd truly wonderful LC, who continued to work with us for 4 more tireless months, and it was officially diagnosed and then clipped by the esteemed Elizabeth Coryllos, a pediatric surgeon who has published quite a bit on tongue tie and breastfeeding.

That’s about as far as I can go in summing it up; the entire rather insane saga is here: http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/search/label/lact-aid

Thanks for bringing attention to this! I really hope information about this becomes much more commonly available. I think it may underlie the premature severing of a lot of breastfeeding relationships, much to the mystified frustration of the mothers.

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